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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 07:01:50 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #145 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Sun, 13 Feb 94 Volume 94 : Issue 145 Today's Topics: A is for alpha..... (2 msgs) Antenna Erection Aids - Thor's socks Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script? Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 07 February Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 08 February Hamblaster update Long range digital links NUDE AMATEUR RADIO CL which is better qrp band--30 or 40? Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 11 Feb 1994 14:34:28 GMT From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!news.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: A is for alpha..... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <erik_read-100294175751@gardner2.life.uiuc.edu>, erik_read@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (erik read) wrote: > I have a friend who speaks english badly and does not choose words to > describe the letters. I think the military has a thing where they use > standardized, easily recognisable words, like alpha, bravo, charlie, > etc...... > I myself do not know them all and I really think that this would help a > lot. > Can anyone help me? Is this the right place to be posting? > > Thanks in advance; Erik Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliette Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey X-Ray Yankee So I'm Kilo Delta One November Romeo -- == Anthony_Pelliccio@Brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR) == Brown University Alumni & Development Computing Services == Box 1908, Providence, RI 02912 Tel. (401) 863-1880 == I speak for myself, and not for Brown University. Remember that! ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 1994 00:00:42 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!gardner2.life.uiuc.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: A is for alpha..... To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have a friend who speaks english badly and does not choose words to describe the letters. I think the military has a thing where they use standardized, easily recognisable words, like alpha, bravo, charlie, etc...... I myself do not know them all and I really think that this would help a lot. Can anyone help me? Is this the right place to be posting? Thanks in advance; Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 17:53:39 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Antenna Erection Aids - Thor's socks To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <9402091910.AA23952@rodgers.rain.com> lbrunson@rodgers.rain.COM writes: >certain applications. I use an old sock. 'In days of old, when hams were bold and sling-shots weren't perfected they'd put some rocks into a sock thus skyhooks were erected' Greg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:52:50 GMT From: netcon!bongo!netcomsv!netcom.com!slay@locus.ucla.edu Subject: Copying High-Speed CW: Print or Script? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu : A mailing I read is involved in a comparision of the speeds of : printing and cursive writing. I decided to consult some experts. : So, all you high-speed CW ops, which do _you_ use? Cursive is definitely faster than printing. Using a keyboard is much faster still. The best is to copy in your head. For me, I'll use pencil and paper up til around 25 wpm; more likely a keyboard which is comfortable (for me) up til around 35-40 wpm. If you use a keyboard, at higher speeds you generally have to read the text of what you typed to know what you copied - it (the code) passes directly from your ears to you fingertips and doesn't stop off in the brain. ;-) For anything >40 wpm, I personally have to copy in my head and make notes, where possible, on paper. Cheers de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV slay@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 02:14:34 MST From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 07 February To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 07 FEBRUARY, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 038, 02/07/94 10.7 FLUX=095.9 90-AVG=106 SSN=072 BKI=5546 6553 BAI=049 BGND-XRAY=B1.1 FLU1=7.2E+06 FLU10=1.0E+04 PKI=4647 6553 PAI=054 BOU-DEV=071,108,041,138,179,096,094,029 DEV-AVG=094 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B8.2 @ 1415UT XRAY-MIN= A9.9 @ 1749UT XRAY-AVG= B1.7 NEUTN-MAX= +000% @ 2325UT NEUTN-MIN= -004% @ 0830UT NEUTN-AVG= -1.7% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 0610UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 1345UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55356NT @ 0209UT BOUTF-MIN=55280NT @ 1030UT BOUTF-AVG=55323NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+067,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+137NT@ 1741UT GOES6-MIN=N:-099NT@ 0618UT G6-AVG=+089,+038,-035 FLUXFCST=STD:097,099,102;SESC:097,099,102 BAI/PAI-FCST=025,025,020/033,025,020 KFCST=5656 4343 4455 5333 27DAY-AP=015,020 27DAY-KP=2133 2543 4434 4433 WARNINGS=*GSTRM ALERTS=**MINSTRM !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 06 FEB 94 was 45.0. The Full Kp Indices for 06 FEB 94 are: 4o 4o 3o 6o 6o 7o 5o 5o The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 06 FEB 94 are: 27 27 15 84 76 132 45 45 SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- Solar activity remained very low. Region 7664 (S12W49) continued its growth and became a small class D group. This region produced several B-class events. Solar activity forecast: solar activity should become low with Region 7664 beginning to produce small C-class bursts. If the current pace of growth continues, small M-class flares could be observed in a few days from this region. STD: Electrons at greater than 2 MeV have become elevated. The enhancement began at about mid-day on the 7th. The enhancement appears to be approximately similar in intensity to what was observed at this time during the last solar rotation. If flux levels continue to remain strongly enhanced over the next week as occurred last rotation, geosynchronous satellite anomalies may be observed. Geomagnetic storm conditions continued. Mid latitudes experienced minor to major storm levels. High latitude conditions ranged between active and severe storm levels. The Forbush decrease noted yesterday returned to a near normal level. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field should become predominantly active for the next three days. Isolated periods at minor to major storm are forecast for mid latitudes and isolated major to severe storm periods are possible for high latitudes. Event probabilities 08 feb-10 feb Class M 05/05/05 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 08 feb-10 feb A. Middle Latitudes Active 35/35/35 Minor Storm 35/35/35 Major-Severe Storm 20/20/20 B. High Latitudes Active 30/30/30 Minor Storm 40/40/40 Major-Severe Storm 20/20/20 HF propagation conditions were significantly below normal over almost all regions today. Strong geomagnetic and auroral storming produced radio blackout conditions for transpolar and transauroral circuits. Absorption was widespread and relatively strong today. The storming raised LUFs and lowered MUFs. MUFs were decreased by between 30 and 50 percent over most regions. Fair to poor propagation was observed over even the low latitudes. Middle latitudes saw fair to very poor propagation. Storming is still in progress at the present time, although it is expected to subside slightly, later on 08 February. A return to near-normal conditions is not expected for several days yet, except over the lower latitudes where near-normal conditions may return on 09 February. Higher latitudes will require additional time to recover from this ionospheric storm. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== REGIONS WIT ----------------------------------------------------------- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE 7664 S11W28 014 0130 DAO 09 020 BET 7665 N04W24 010 0020 HSX 02 002 ALPHA 7666 N18W08 354 0090 CSO 08 005 BET 7667 S08W04 350 0020 BXO 05 005 BET REGIONS DUE TO RET NMBR LAT 7657 N10 234 7652 N04 221 LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 07 FEBRUARY, 1994 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP NONE POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 07 FEBRUARY, 1994 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 07/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DAT SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 06 Feb: 0742 0747 0755 SF 7664 S10W24 0812 0816 0820 B5.0 SF 7664 S10W25 1252 1313 1328 B7.9 SF 7664 S13W30 1650 1654 1659 B1.6 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7664: 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 003 (75.0) Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 001 (25.0) Total Events: 004 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WIT ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 03:04:36 MST From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 08 February To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACT 08 FEBRUARY, 1994 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data) SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACT ------------------------------------------------------------ !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 039, 02/08/94 10.7 FLUX=095 90-AVG=106 SSN=085 BKI=6555 6445 BAI=050 BGND-XRAY=B1.2 FLU1=5.1E+06 FLU10=2.3E+04 PKI=6566 6455 PAI=056 BOU-DEV=151,086,106,083,130,059,055,073 DEV-AVG=092 NT SWF=00:000 XRAY-MAX= B7.3 @ 1614UT XRAY-MIN= A7.5 @ 0206UT XRAY-AVG= B1.8 NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 1325UT NEUTN-MIN= -003% @ 1105UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.5% PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 1800UT PCA-MIN= -0.2DB @ 1040UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB BOUTF-MAX=55355NT @ 2359UT BOUTF-MIN=55306NT @ 1718UT BOUTF-AVG=55330NT GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+058,+000,+000 GOES6-MAX=P:+122NT@ 1521UT GOES6-MIN=N:-099NT@ 0704UT G6-AVG=+084,+041,-037 FLUXFCST=STD:097,098,100;SESC:097,098,100 BAI/PAI-FCST=025,020,020/035,025,025 KFCST=4455 6423 4345 4433 27DAY-AP=020,021 27DAY-KP=4434 4433 4433 5334 WARNINGS=*GSTRM;*AURMIDWCH ALERTS=**MAJSTRM !!END-DATA!! NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 07 FEB 94 was 25.0. The Full Kp Indices for 07 FEB 94 are: 4o 6- 4+ 7- 6o 5o 5- 3o The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 07 FEB 94 are: 30 65 35 109 86 51 42 16 SYNOPSIS OF ACT -------------------- Solar activity remained very low. New Region 7668 (N09E50) emerged rapidly and produced several optical flares with B-class enhancements. Region 7664 (S14W62), which was growing rapidly on 07 Feb, stabilized during the period. A lack of data is inhibiting analysis. Solar activity forecast: solar activity should become generally low. Region 7668 is becoming a likely candidate for low C-class subflares. Old Region 7654 is due at the east limb at the end of the period and should start to elevate activity levels at that time. Last rotation, Region 7654 produced four M-class and many C-class events. The geomagnetic field was at active to major storm levels. Some high latitude sites experienced severe storm conditions. The severity of this disturbance appeared to be moderating toward the end of the period. More frequent active to unsettled k indices were observed at various observatories. Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field should become predominantly active for the duration of the forecast period. Occasional minor to major storm periods are likely. The coronal hole responsible for this disturbance is quite elongated and disturbed geomagnetic conditions should be expected for approximately one week. Event probabilities 09 feb-11 feb Class M 01/01/01 Class X 01/01/01 Proton 01/01/01 PCAF Green Geomagnetic activity probabilities 09 feb-11 feb A. Middle Latitudes Active 35/35/35 Minor Storm 35/35/35 Major-Severe Storm 10/10/10 B. High Latitudes Active 35/35/35 Minor Storm 35/35/35 Major-Severe Storm 15/15/15 HF propagation conditions were disturbed over most regions today. A moderate ionospheric storm is in progress. MUFs are depressed and LUFs are raised, decreasing the available bandwidth and resulting in more difficult communications, particularly for transpolar and transauroral circuits where propagation has been useless for a good part of the UTC day. Conditions are expected to remain disturbed over the next 24 to 48 hours before very gradually improving. Conditions are not expected to return to near-normal for at least several days, perhaps extending beyond 5 to 7 days. COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS ======================================================== LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 08 FEBRUARY, 1994 ------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP 1044 1044 1045 160 POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 08 FEBRUARY, 1994 ----------------------------------------------------------- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV NO EVENTS OBSERVED INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 08/2400Z --------------------------------------------------- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXT EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN NO DAT SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- --------- 07 Feb: 0217 0225 0231 B4.3 0449 0454 0459 B6.4 SF 7664 S12W39 0854 0858 0905 B2.4 1251 1257 1259 B3.9 1357 1414 1432 B8.2 SF 7664 S12W42 1404 1414 1427 B8.6 REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY ------------------------------------------------ C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%) -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------ Region 7664: 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 002 (33.3) Uncorrellated: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 004 (66.7) Total Events: 006 optical and x-ray. EVENTS WIT ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------------------------- NO EVENTS OBSERVED. NOTES: All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max, and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After. All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times. Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include: II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event III = Type III Sweep IV = Type IV Sweep V = Type V Sweep Continuum = Continuum Radio Event Loop = Loop Prominence System, Spray = Limb Spray, Surge = Bright Limb Surge, EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb. ** End of Daily Report ** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 14:04:42 GMT From: sgiblab!twg.com!eco.twg.com!psinntp!laidbak!tellab5!jwa@ames.arpa Subject: Hamblaster update To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The Hamblaster Update Over the past several months I posted updates about a DSP "The Hamblaster" that Will Torgrim (N9PEA) and myself are developing. We are focusing our efforts on a packet modem that allows the user to improve H.F. reception by interfacing the Ham- blaster (a PC compatable DSP sound board) to a transceiver and a packet or all mode TNC. Modems/filters for RTTY, Packtor, Amtor are also under developement and are compatable with the same control panal software. Here are the latest developements 2-10-94 Several weeks ago I mentioned that the projected cost for the board would be about $350.00. It was just a "guessestmate". It looks like it will be more in the $275.00 range and could be as low as $250.00. This may still sound high compared to the Soundblaster or other sound cards, but you have to remember that it's made exclusivly for Ham Radio and it won't have the volume (sales) of other sound cards. I would also like to point out that it's not just software. It's a sound card with a DSP and a digital port that can interface to a TNC. The DSP is used as an improved filter for Packet or RTTY and other digital modes. It unless there's a way to interface it with Baycom, it cannot copy packet without a TNC. 1) External Power supply I think one feature that separates the Hamblaster from other sound boards is it's ability to run on an external 12 volt supply. When a filter or modem is loaded, You can turn off the computer and Hamblaster keeps on going and going and going! When it's connected to a PK-232, there's no need to keep the computer on in order to keep the DSP alive. Right now, my PK232/Hamblaster is runing and it's been operating for about 5 days 2) Adaptive (LMS) filter There's ongoing developement in this area. We are planing (I don't think this has been done before) to add controls to the LMS algorithm. 3) Soundblaster compatibility The Hamblaster IS NOT soundblaster compatible. It was designed that way so that it will run independant of other sound boards. I can still use my Soundblater to record sound, play music, load software from the CD or use the midi interface. At the same time, I can receive packets or use a DSP filter with my Ham equipment. --- Jack Albert Fellow Radio Hacker Tele (708) 378-6201 Tellabs Operations, Inc. FAX (708) 378-4590 1000 Remington Blvd. jwa@tellabs.com Bolingbrook, IL 60440 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * THE BOWTIE FILTER ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 94 18:55:16 GMT From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!BIX.com!hamilton@yale.arpa Subject: Long range digital links To: info-hams@ucsd.edu br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes: > Can any of you radio folks give me a hand with this? > I need a system capable of transmitting about 1 MegaBit per second > of digital data from anywhere on the planet. This would be a one-way > link. I'm sure this can be done, but can it be done reliably without > a satellite and lots of very fancy gear? If so, I have some questions: > How much might the equipment to do this cost? > How much would this equipment (the transmitter) weigh? > How much volume would this equipment (transmitter) occupy? > How much power would the transmitter require during operation? > How big would the antenna have to be? > If the problem is simplified to communicate within a single hemisphere, > does that make life alot easier? > Any information would be a great help! > Thanks very much! > Bill I think you'd have a better chance of doing this if your last name was Gates, not Ross. Does that help you guess what sort of cost we're talking about? Seriously, there's no way to do this except with a satellite or a land line (probably a fiber) and lots of very fancy, very expensive gear. There's no way at all to do this with radio. HF can often propogate to anywhere on the planet via skywave (bouncing off the ionosphere) but not reliably and there's no way anyone's going to give you the spectrum you need to move 1Mbit/sec that way (we're talking international treaty kind of limitations!) There's enough spectrum if you can use UHF or higher frequencies, but these are line-of-sight only, which is why you need a satellite. I suggest it's time to reconsider whether this is really something you "need". :-) Regards, Doug Hamilton hamilton@bix.com Ph 508-358-5715 Hamilton Laboratories, 13 Old Farm Road, Wayland, MA 01778-3117 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 10:14:56 -0800 From: netcon!bongo!netcomsv!lavc!steven.rosenberg@locus.ucla.edu Subject: NUDE AMATEUR RADIO CL To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >Gary Davis (gdavis@griffin.uvm.edu) wrote: >: I heard a strange story on the CBC last evening. The report was on >: the increasing interest in nudism in the Winter months. To promote >: this festive and relaxing activity additional interests where specified. > >: There is, according to the CBC, a nudist amateur radio club. > >Is this like 'operating barefoot'? Where to they clip the HT's external >speaker-mike? ;-> > >k4adl > I guess these folks have extensive experience with EME -- what's a little moonbounce between friends? KC6FYL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:09:53 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!slay@decwrl.dec.com Subject: which is better qrp band--30 or 40? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu mtrail@violet.berkeley.edu wrote: : The title says it all. Which band do you qrp'ers : prefer? For questions on QRP - I suggest a good source of info is the QRP reflector. To subscribe to the mailing list, simply send an e-mail msg to: qrp-request@think.com I can't recall if you should only enter SUBSCRIBE or also include info on yourself (e.g. name, call, qrp rig, etc). Cheers de Sandy WA6BXH/7J1ABV ------------------------------ Date: 11 Feb 1994 00:07:43 GMT From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!andy@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <gdavis.760825204@griffin>, <2jd6kj$mqt@clarknet.clark.net>, <mosier.83.0@fagan.uncg.edu>ews.int Subject : Re: Nude amateur radio clubs Stephen Mosier (mosier@fagan.uncg.edu) wrote: : In article <2jd6kj$mqt@clarknet.clark.net> andy@clark.net : (Andrew M. Cohn) writes: : >: There is, according to the CBC, a nudist amateur radio club. : > : >Is this like 'operating barefoot'? Where to they clip the HT's external : >speaker-mike? ;-> : Where do they hang the HT?? : steve : mosier@fagan.uncg.edu That should be obvious. ;-> -andy ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #145 ******************************